The Stacked S-Curve Playbook for Sustained Growth with Tatiana Birgisson
Published
September 1, 2026
Growth isn't one curve, it's many. The best leaders launch the next channel before the current one peaks, because by the time the metrics soften, you're already late.
In this episode of Growth Talks, Tatiana Birgisson, COO at Serval—the AI-native enterprise service management platform—joins host Krystina Rubino to unpack the mental models that carried her from founding a beverage company out of her dorm room, to scaling go-to-market at Rippling, to building an entire function from scratch in a category that barely exists yet. Tatiana breaks down her "stacked S-curves" framework for sustaining growth, explains why executional excellence has to come before you diagnose a fading channel, and shares how Serval discovered it had less than 1% visibility in LLM search—and exactly what the team did about it.
🗝️ Key Takeaways
- Growth isn't one curve, it's many. The best growth leaders stack S-curves, launching the next channel before the current one peaks. Wait for the metrics to soften and you've already fallen behind.
- Executional excellence comes before diagnosis. You can't tell whether a channel is genuinely maturing until you've ruled out the possibility that you're just running it poorly.
- LLM visibility is the new SEO. Serval found it had under 1% visibility for its core terms in AI search tools and treated it as a wake-up call, not a footnote.
- Management is changing. Fewer standing meetings, fewer layers, more "super ICs." The best managers still do the hardest work themselves instead of just coordinating it.
- Judgment beats hours. In an AI-native world, the edge goes to whoever can spot the highest-priority problem and apply exceptional taste, a skill Tatiana sees in many parents.
⏰ Timestamps
00:00 Introduction with Krystina Rubino
01:25 From Founder to Operator: Lessons from Mati Energy
06:58 Building Rippling's Cross-Sell Function from Scratch
14:54 The Stacked S-Curve Model, Explained
17:41 Knowing When a Channel Is Really Peaking
20:37 Defending New Bets to a Skeptical CFO
22:50 Why Serval Bet on LLM Search Over Google
30:22 The A/B Test
37:24 Unlearning "Professional Management"
44:42 GTM Strategy that Cuts Through the AI Noise
46:49 Why Parents Make Great Operators in the AI Era
55:09 Tatiana's Favorite Growth Non-Hack
🔗 Mentioned in this episode
Serval: https://www.getserval.com/
Rippling: https://www.rippling.com/
Mati Energy: https://noblbeverages.com/products/mati-energy/
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